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    Envoyée le lundi 22 février 2010 10:37:05
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    Man held in police station for eight hours after taking pictures of Christmas celebrations in Accrington, Lancashire.

    Police questioned an amateur photographer under anti-terrorist legislation and later arrested him, claiming pictures he was taking in a Lancashire town were "suspicious" and constituted "antisocial behaviour".

    Footage recorded on a video camera by Bob Patefield, a former paramedic, shows how police approached him and a fellow photography enthusiast in Accrington town centre. They were told they were being questioned under the Terrorism Act.

    Senior police officers last year promised to scale back the use of anti-terrorist legislation such as Section 44 of the act, which deals with photographers, after a series of high-profile cases in which photographers said they had been harassed by police for taking innocuous images in the street.

    Patefield and his friend declined to give their details, as they are entitled to under the act. The police then appeared to change tack, saying the way the men were taking images constituted "antisocial behaviour". Patefield, who is in his 40s, was stopped three times before finally being arrested.

    He and his friend were taking photographs of Christmas festivities on 19 December, after attending a photography exhibition. The last images on his camera before he was stopped show a picture of a Santa Claus, people in fancy dress and a pipe band marching through the town.

    He turned on his video camera the moment he was approached by a police community support officer (PCSO). In the footage, she said: "Because of the Terrorism Act and everything in the country, we need to get everyone's details who is taking pictures of the town."

    Patefield declined to give his details and, after asking if he was free to go, walked away. However the PCSO and a police officer stopped the men in another part of the town. This time, the police officer repeatedly asked him to stop filming her and said his photography was "suspicious" and "possibly antisocial".

    Patefield asked if the officer had any "reasonable, articulable suspicion" to justify him giving his details.

    She replied: "I believe your behaviour was quite suspicious in the manner in which you were taking photographs in the town centre I'm suspicious in why you were taking those pictures.

    "I'm an officer of the law, and I'm requiring you, because I believe your behaviour to be of a suspicious nature, and of possibly antisocial [nature] I can take your details just to ascertain that everything is OK."

    Patefield and his friend maintained that they did not want to disclose their details. They were stopped a third and final time when returning to their car. This time the officer was accompanied by an acting sergeant. "Under law, fine, we can ask for your details we've got no powers," he said. "However, due to the fact that we believe you were involved in antisocial behaviour, ie taking photographs then we do have a power under [the Police Reform Act] to ask for your name and address, and for you to provide it. If you don't, then you may be arrested."

    There is a section of that act that compels a member of the public to give their details if a police officer suspects them of antisocial activity.

    The sergeant also alluded to complaints from the public and, turning to Patefield, added: "I'm led to believe you've got a bit of insight into the law. Do you work in the field?"

    Patefield was arrested for refusing to give his details, while his friend, who gave in, walked free. Patefield was held for eight hours and released without charge.

    In a statement, Lancashire police said they and members of the public were "concerned about the way in which [Patefield] was using his camera". It said police felt they had "no choice" but to arrest him because he was refusing to co-operate.



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  • damon576

    I might record in my town and piss the cops off. All LEGAL
    jeudi 24 mai 2012 18:42:10
  • ThatGamerGuyNL

    respect bro!!
    jeudi 24 mai 2012 16:08:13
  • leltard

    how do you take photos "sneakily" and for what reason would anyone take them "sneakily" when they can just take photos for whatever reason they want.
    dimanche 20 mai 2012 01:31:56
  • 31vis101

    ha being anti social i dont think soo hahaha!
    jeudi 10 mai 2012 02:23:57
  • ferranerazzi

    Change the record loser and get a life.
    mardi 01 mai 2012 16:16:14
  • ferranerazzi

    I knew you were a moron but now you're surpassing yourself. If this is how you get your kicks then good on you. You might want to consider getting a life pal. Ciao.
    mardi 01 mai 2012 14:04:24
  • ferranerazzi

    You're not dyslexic you just can't spell and I have no issue whatsoever with your inability to spell or construct a sentence. I'm simply pointing out that no one as plainly illiterate as you are has passed a law degree let alone qualified for the bar. Go away now, you really are boring me.
    mardi 01 mai 2012 13:24:31
  • spudy17

    That was 500, now to address your rights V responsobilitys.. there is no verse, as to understand your rights means you are fully aware of your responsobilitys.. i have a lawful right to silence, yet a legal obligation to give details when requested.. however a legal responsobilty is one granted by consent..ie its my choice no matter how the question is possed and to be forced to answer..as it says forced that may give you a hint..that its against your free will.. post to follow again!
    mardi 01 mai 2012 13:03:24
  • ferranerazzi

    Nice try but total garbage. You've got 500 characters, you can construct a dozen sentences in that space and your spelling is appalling. How many different ways are you going to try and spell responsibilities? There is no way that you are a "lawyer" as you claim. The point about rights and responsibilities going hand in hand was the one I made you buffoon, it's you who is shouting "I have rights" ignoring your responsibilities.
    mardi 01 mai 2012 12:52:22
  • jaggerofgy

    We don't have to provide them with our details.
    mardi 01 mai 2012 03:49:14
  • ferranerazzi

    You're no lawyer, despite the many failings of the modern day ambulance chasing legal fraternity, I haven't met one who fails to construct a sentence correctly or who can't spell the most straightforward of English words. With respect to the way you represent a "client" of course you should do your best by them but that isn't the point. This is about taking your rights and ignoring your responsibilities, a concept you clearly don't understand regardless of your profession (if you've got one).
    dimanche 29 avril 2012 16:37:24
  • ferranerazzi

    Nothing abusive about it and feel threatened over what exactly? And bleeding heart lawyers like you who who is VERY LONG on rights and VERY SHORT on responsibilities make me sick. The cops aren't the enemy, why be a prick towards them?
    dimanche 29 avril 2012 08:47:47
  • ferranerazzi

    Only if he has done something wrong and if he has legitimate cause to ask you for your details and you refuse then he has legitimate cause to arrest you and hold you for 24 hours without charge. If you want that much hassle just because you want to act like a prick in the first place be my guest.
    dimanche 29 avril 2012 06:31:24
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